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Continue to ChatI speak of the current civilization and I consider her not as a symbol but as victim-victim, really, of the commercialization, of the falsification of this real world. That is my theme. - Ernesto Cardenal from https://whatsmyquote.com/quote/i-speak-of-the-current-civilization-and-i-consider-her-not-as-a-symbol-but-as-victim-victim-really-of-the